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by Trevor Gore
Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:48 pm
Forum: Contemporary Acoustic Guitar Design and Build - Trevor Gore
Topic: Bridge mass/frequency drop
Replies: 10
Views: 10808

Re: Bridge mass/frequency drop

It seems to indicate that for a given bridge mass, the X braced guitar will have the LEAST frequency drop after gluing on the bridge. Yes, that's right. Typical X-bracing already has so much cross-grain stiffness (with the bridge plate as well) that the bridge contributes more to the mass than to t...
by Trevor Gore
Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:34 pm
Forum: Contemporary Acoustic Guitar Design and Build - Trevor Gore
Topic: Bridge mass/frequency drop
Replies: 10
Views: 10808

Re: Bridge mass/frequency drop

jeffhigh wrote:Is that faint line in the centre of the bar the +-1 standard deviation?
Yep, you got it! (Might need the good, clean, glasses for that one!). Fortunately, I can still see it without visual aids. There are similar SD lines on some of the other charts, too.
by Trevor Gore
Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:28 pm
Forum: Instrument Builders Forum
Topic: Forum's Choice
Replies: 65
Views: 45053

Re: Forum's Choice

Nick wrote:Trevor, did you still keep a 25" or longer scale...
I used 24.9" (632mm) on a Gibson 185-ish body shape.
kiwigeo wrote:And DONT f&^%k up the compensation at the saddle!!! :oops:
Nut and saddle compensation is something to think about on a 12 string. Makes a big difference.
by Trevor Gore
Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:33 am
Forum: Instrument Builders Forum
Topic: Forum's Choice
Replies: 65
Views: 45053

Re: Forum's Choice

12 string, 12 frets - very cool...

http://www.goreguitars.com.au/main/page ... jects.html (bottom of the page).
by Trevor Gore
Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:27 am
Forum: Contemporary Acoustic Guitar Design and Build - Trevor Gore
Topic: Bridge mass/frequency drop
Replies: 10
Views: 10808

Re: Bridge mass/frequency drop

It seems to read OK to me (but then it would, I suppose!) Perhaps the thing to look at is the length of the line showing the standard deviation (just one standard deviation, + and - on the chart). For the classical guitars, 3 SD's out, which will cover most (~99.7%) of the population, some will have...
by Trevor Gore
Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:58 pm
Forum: Contemporary Acoustic Guitar Design and Build - Trevor Gore
Topic: Red Cedar for Falcate Bracing?
Replies: 9
Views: 10947

Re: Red Cedar for Falcate Bracing?

Bootle has red cedar ranging between 7.9GPa and 9.4GPa for Young's modulus. John has measured 5.6GPa. So, much as I said, it depends on the wood in your hands. I've used King Billy with a YM of ~6.0GPa and at 7mm high falcates it works fine for me for 170Hz guitars. If I use spruce of ~10GPa I find ...
by Trevor Gore
Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:25 pm
Forum: Contemporary Acoustic Guitar Design and Build - Trevor Gore
Topic: Red Cedar for Falcate Bracing?
Replies: 9
Views: 10947

Re: Red Cedar for Falcate Bracing?

Never used it, but Bootle gives it a reasonable rating. Depends very much on the piece in your hands. If red cedar gets stiffer with laminating, so does spruce!
by Trevor Gore
Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:38 pm
Forum: Contemporary Acoustic Guitar Design and Build - Trevor Gore
Topic: Split Peaks
Replies: 2
Views: 5456

Re: Split Peaks

Hi Luke, A 20Hz drop for adding the bridge might be a bit too much to expect unless you have quite a heavy bridge. However, a bridge and some side mass should get you there. If you find that you only drop a few Hz when you add the bridge, you could always re-direct to 95, 180, 226 (224 should be goo...
by Trevor Gore
Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:38 pm
Forum: Instrument Builders Forum
Topic: Calling all Adelaide Luthiers
Replies: 80
Views: 59853

Re: Calling all Adelaide Luthiers

"To celebrate the unprecedented industry milestone of 1,000,000 words written, Gore Guitars, has created a spectacular commemorative edition instrument. The SheD-100 Dulux combines rare skip woods and no inlays in a breathtaking example of the guitar builder’s science. Quite simply, this masterpiece...
by Trevor Gore
Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:19 pm
Forum: Instrument Builders Forum
Topic: Thicknessing questions...
Replies: 25
Views: 18309

Re: Thicknessing questions...

woodrat wrote:I wounder where I learned to spill?
NZ?

(Sorry guys, couldn't help myself)
by Trevor Gore
Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:46 pm
Forum: Instrument Builders Forum
Topic: Calling all Adelaide Luthiers
Replies: 80
Views: 59853

Re: Calling all Adelaide Luthiers

whats the most bizzare wood someone has used for a soundboard? Try looking here: http://www.anzlf.com/viewforum.php?f=25 There's a great variety of woods being used; how sustainable is another issue. If you're looking for sustainable, it probably has to be plantation wood or re-growth in forests fe...
by Trevor Gore
Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:28 pm
Forum: Contemporary Acoustic Guitar Design and Build - Trevor Gore
Topic: Back Braces
Replies: 1
Views: 4010

Re: Back Braces

Spruce; but a question better suited to the main forum I think, where you might attract some more discussion.
by Trevor Gore
Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:47 pm
Forum: Instrument Builders Forum
Topic: Soundports?
Replies: 12
Views: 10492

Re: Soundports?

There's nothing in "the book" about sound ports. As far as Gerard and I are concerned, we've yet to hear a guitar that sounds better out front for having one. All the ones we've heard have lacked projection compared to having the port sealed. The player occasionally hears more with a port, but our v...
by Trevor Gore
Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:34 pm
Forum: Instrument Builders Forum
Topic: Blackwood Stain.
Replies: 51
Views: 37564

Re: Blackwood Stain.

BTW, if you're using oxalic acid, wear gloves, or you might be in for an unscheduled acid peel.
by Trevor Gore
Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:45 pm
Forum: Instrument Builders Forum
Topic: Blackwood Stain.
Replies: 51
Views: 37564

Re: Blackwood Stain.

So Not really neutralizing the Oxalic with the vinegar just redisolving it in a weaker solution to enable it to be wiped off? Yes, but you don't necessarily have to let the oxalic acid dry. Put the oxalic on, wait until the colour is what you want, then get it off quickly. If you know your water is...
by Trevor Gore
Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:27 am
Forum: Instrument Builders Forum
Topic: Calling all Adelaide Luthiers
Replies: 80
Views: 59853

Re: Calling all Adelaide Luthiers

Lando, As you can see, asking the right question is harder than finding the right answer. Anyway, it's never too early to start reading, as there is a lot more out there than many people realise, as not too many guitar makers roam the archives of the Acoustical Society of America, Acustica, Applied ...
by Trevor Gore
Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:26 am
Forum: Instrument Builders Forum
Topic: Blackwood Stain.
Replies: 51
Views: 37564

Re: Blackwood Stain.

Hi Bruce....Thanks for your experience with oxalic acid....I think vinegar would be the neutralising agent to use though.... Vinegar is also an acid, and hence will not neutralise oxalic acid. You would need to use an alkali. If you are looking for something to neutralize an acid, use baking soda. ...
by Trevor Gore
Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:02 pm
Forum: Instrument Builders Forum
Topic: Frequency Spectrum
Replies: 13
Views: 9418

Re: Frequency Spectrum

Tod, this:
Tod Gilding wrote: Attachments:
4freq spec.jpg
(i.e. your last chart posted)
looks like no signal to me. Check your connections and that you have the sound input turned up. You might need to apply microphone boost, too (via the loudspeaker icon in the tray, bottom right of your screen)
by Trevor Gore
Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:57 pm
Forum: Contemporary Acoustic Guitar Design and Build - Trevor Gore
Topic: Carbon Fibre
Replies: 37
Views: 45227

Re: Carbon Fibre

The ~0.5mm was a "guestimate" based on grit particle size. A wide-belt sander in stock removal mode could be using abrasives of 40 (coarse) to 60 (typ.) to 80 (also fairly typ.). The grit average diameters are ~0.45mm, ~0.27mm and ~0.2mm. Add a bit of dispersion (less with higher quality abrasives) ...
by Trevor Gore
Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:26 pm
Forum: Contemporary Acoustic Guitar Design and Build - Trevor Gore
Topic: Carbon Fibre
Replies: 37
Views: 45227

Re: Carbon Fibre

John, if you have found a method/materials that work for you, stick with it. That's basically what I did. There's no harm in using more CF if the mode frequencies are in the right places. You mentioned that you always seem to come out on the stiff side. I'm still not sure why that always happens, bu...
by Trevor Gore
Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:46 am
Forum: Contemporary Acoustic Guitar Design and Build - Trevor Gore
Topic: Carbon Fibre
Replies: 37
Views: 45227

Re: Carbon Fibre

I've had some more enquiries about the specification of the carbon fibre that I use and after a lengthy search I managed to get the following information from the Toray website. I can't get a link to work directly to the correct page, however this: http://www.torayca.com/en/index.html gets you close...
by Trevor Gore
Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:00 pm
Forum: Contemporary Acoustic Guitar Design and Build - Trevor Gore
Topic: Test data for intonation spreadsheet
Replies: 28
Views: 30846

Re: Test data for intonation spreadsheet

I suppose we all expect the string to be longer than scale to compensate for the increase in tension from fretting and because all the commercially available intonation products (Buzz Feiten & Earvana) are made for the retro fit market. But for new builds we can shift the string compass towards the...
by Trevor Gore
Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:55 am
Forum: Contemporary Acoustic Guitar Design and Build - Trevor Gore
Topic: Test data for intonation spreadsheet
Replies: 28
Views: 30846

Re: Test data for intonation spreadsheet

Well done, Martin, on getting it all to work. It at least means that the stuff in the book is reasonably error free (I hope!). And thanks for posting those hints for other users. It's pretty easy to get into circular references when programming this stuff. So far, I think you're the first to have pr...
by Trevor Gore
Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:41 am
Forum: Contemporary Acoustic Guitar Design and Build - Trevor Gore
Topic: Test data for intonation spreadsheet
Replies: 28
Views: 30846

Re: Test data for intonation spreadsheet

Well done on the de-bugging! Anything particular, or a variety of things? On the string stretchable length mentioned on page 4-115 of design - If the string is not a straight pull between tuner and nut (my design is a slotted headstock) does the change in direction over the nut remove that portion o...
by Trevor Gore
Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:00 pm
Forum: Contemporary Acoustic Guitar Design and Build - Trevor Gore
Topic: Bolt-on bolt-off neck joint
Replies: 9
Views: 11319

Re: Bolt-on bolt-off neck joint

Apparently! If only I could remember...