Can you spot what is bugging me?

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Can you spot what is bugging me?

Post by old_picker » Wed Aug 12, 2015 2:15 pm

There is something about this fingerboard that is bothering me and i am wondering if any one else is able to spot it. Just want to check before I glue it down. No it's not the center line marks as they will be trimmed off.

Thanks for taking a look.

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Re: Can you spot what is bugging me?

Post by rocket » Wed Aug 12, 2015 2:23 pm

Can you post a pic of said f/b?
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Re: Can you spot what is bugging me?

Post by old_picker » Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:18 pm

GLAAARRRGHHH!!

one a them days - here she is:

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Re: Can you spot what is bugging me?

Post by Hank » Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:06 pm

It's like "where's Wally" is there a prize?

Maybe the interval between the nut and the 1st fret?
Without deviation progress is not possible.

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Re: Can you spot what is bugging me?

Post by kiwigeo » Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:15 pm

Not much visible taper.

The only possible "issue" might be at the nut end as Hank as mentioned.
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Re: Can you spot what is bugging me?

Post by scripsit » Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:25 pm

The interval between fret 2 and 3 compared to that between 3 and 4?

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Re: Can you spot what is bugging me?

Post by Nick » Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:49 pm

Ok, I'll give it a go :D
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Re: Can you spot what is bugging me?

Post by kiwigeo » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:01 pm

Those marker dots look a bit too round
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Re: Can you spot what is bugging me?

Post by kiwigeo » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:02 pm

Aha...I can see what's bugging you. Its the gaping big hole in the table cloth at top right. You're busy thinking up a BS story to tell your wife about how the hole got there.
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Re: Can you spot what is bugging me?

Post by Trevor Gore » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:20 pm

12th fret markers not symmetrically spaced.

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Re: Can you spot what is bugging me?

Post by old_picker » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:30 pm

i'll leave it a bit longer and see if any one can hit it
not sure whether i am game to say what it is now :( this was a major freak out for me on quite an expensive instrument

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Re: Can you spot what is bugging me?

Post by GregL » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:43 pm

Hi old_picker,

It's hard to tell because it's really difficult to get photos "square", but I'll have a guess:
- are all the dots offset to the bass side by a very small amount?

Thanks,
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Re: Can you spot what is bugging me?

Post by charangohabsburg » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:49 pm

Too much white in the ebony! :mrgreen:
But wait, just sell it as albino ebony and charge 20% more than usual.
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Re: Can you spot what is bugging me?

Post by Mark McLean » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:52 pm

I was thinking the same thing as Trevor - maybe the two dots at the 12th not quite symmetrical. But it could be a trick of the parallax error in the photo. And even if it is true it is so subtle that when strings are on it I don't think you would see it.

We are probably going to freak you out more by making up new defects that don't even exist, when the one you are worried about is actually invisible to everyone but you.

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Re: Can you spot what is bugging me?

Post by old_picker » Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:39 pm

thanks for looking at this for me - your comments are very much appreciated - the fret markers are oversize - 6.8mm

I made a fingerboard by hand with a radius beam - not a deep radius but it still took a lot of scrubbing with a radius beam to get the profile in even using 40 grit - I hate that job so much and swear i will make a jig next time round every time i do it - Unfortunately when it was finished and I ran the calipers over it I found the bass side at the top end of the board down around .5mm - :toi

Just didn't have the time [elbow r00ted as well] to do another so I called a bloke i use for cnc'ing templates and luckily he had a radius and slotting program. I asked him to run on a new fingerboard for me. I sent a sample of the 5.8mm rod I use for the markers along with a beautiful [better than the first] curly maple blank. Unfortunately he set the dot inlays at 6.8mm instead of 5.8mm. When I opened the package the markers jumped out and grabbed me by the eyes and they won't let go. :(

Apart from that a very nice job with a touch up with 400 grit only required.
No offer forthcoming to do a second board which was a little disappointing.

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Re: Can you spot what is bugging me?

Post by charangohabsburg » Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:55 pm

Oh, I thought the fat markers were just your taste. But as you see we have found many other "mistakes", so you maybe better ditch this one too! :shock: :mrgreen: :lol:
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Re: Can you spot what is bugging me?

Post by kiwigeo » Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:23 am

kiwigeo wrote:Those marker dots look a bit too round
I reckon I was pretty close :mrgreen:
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Re: Can you spot what is bugging me?

Post by old_picker » Thu Aug 13, 2015 9:17 am

kiwigeo wrote:
kiwigeo wrote:Those marker dots look a bit too round
I reckon I was pretty close :mrgreen:
yairs but i didnt want to give too much away at that point of the proceedings

at the end of the day they are just too big and I'll get another board cut :x

meanwhile any one looking for a nice curly maple fingerboard for a 7 string??

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Re: Can you spot what is bugging me?

Post by demonx » Thu Aug 13, 2015 9:27 am

The dots look pretty standard size for a 80's style guitar.

As far as your other troubles - I always leave radiusing until after the board is on the neck. Sure I take some off before hand with the CNC, but I leave a tolerance to finish it by hand after it's glued to ensure that after lamination everything is where I want it to be.

I've never had a problem with it not being, but this is simply the way I was told when I was learning to build and it's what I've always done since as it makes sense. Even before I had CNC, I'd glue the square board blank onto the neck blank and radius after lamination. I'm doing the same with the acoustic builds now also.

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Re: Can you spot what is bugging me?

Post by kiwigeo » Thu Aug 13, 2015 10:57 am

old_picker wrote:
kiwigeo wrote:
kiwigeo wrote:Those marker dots look a bit too round
I reckon I was pretty close :mrgreen:
yairs but i didnt want to give too much away at that point of the proceedings

at the end of the day they are just too big and I'll get another board cut :x

meanwhile any one looking for a nice curly maple fingerboard for a 7 string??
This is the sort of thing that I obsess about...and in the end the only solution is to do it again. Call it anal but this sort of thing can drive me crazy.
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Re: Can you spot what is bugging me?

Post by Ormsby Guitars » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:19 am

Curly Maple fretboard? Might want to ask for one with curls next time :P

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Re: Can you spot what is bugging me?

Post by kiwigeo » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:35 am

Does that headstock have it's own truss rod???
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Re: Can you spot what is bugging me?

Post by Woodsy23 » Thu Aug 13, 2015 1:03 pm

I think the markers look fine. You could promote them as "oversize fret markers for improved tone and sustain"
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Re: Can you spot what is bugging me?

Post by Dennis Leahy » Fri Aug 28, 2015 6:30 am

"Large fret markers for Baby Boomer eyes. No extra charge!"
Another damn Yank!

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