pattern makers vise at Carbatec at last!

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would you buy a pattern makers vise from an Aussie supplier if they carried it.

Yes I'm in Australia and I'd buy one
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Yes I'm in Australia and I'd buy more than one
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Im in Australia but it doesn't interest me.
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I already have one and they're great
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pattern makers vise at Carbatec at last!

Post by matthew » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:19 pm

No sorry it hasn't happened yet. but wouldn't it be good if they did carry it?

I've been sending requests for them to add it to their stock lines. I'm suggesting that you guys hop onto their facebook page or website and do likewise.

I just put a lot of money on one from Stewmac. Postage to Oz costs way more than the cost of the vise!!
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Post by kiwigeo » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:26 pm

I got lucky a few years back when Lee Valley stuffed up their pricing on some pattern vices. To their credit they honoured the advertised price and shipped the goods.
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Post by routout » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:35 pm

It is a pretty heavy Item by the look of it you'd want a container full to make it worth while ,I could make one easy enough it does not need to hold the keel of a tall ship I guess.
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Post by blackalex1952 » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:44 pm

These guys have one...$346 - scroll down on the page.
https://www.thewoodworks.com.au/shop/eq ... ist-of-all
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Post by matthew » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:48 pm

well that's why I just think Carbatec should carry it. they have Taiwanese suppliers I'm sure. they could just put a hundred or so in their next shipment of heavy steel things. And I'm sure they'd sell. how many instrument makers are there here? must be hundreds.

I made one, it was ok, but nothing nearly as good as a real one. so I finally cracked and bought one from SM. it is so useful.

thewoodworks.com.au is only marginally cheaper than the Stewmac one after shipping. in fact with local shipping cost probably more.

in the US they sell for around $135USD. and that's imported from Asia.

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Post by blackalex1952 » Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:29 pm

Stewmac say that they have modified their vise with bearings and a faster pitch screw. The other site in my post doesn't have any info in their description. -Ross
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Post by Jeremy D » Sun Jun 25, 2017 6:59 am

blackalex1952 wrote:
Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:44 pm
These guys have one...$346 - scroll down on the page.
https://www.thewoodworks.com.au/shop/eq ... ist-of-all
I have one of these green ones. Got a family member who imports cars to bring it back for me for around $150. I couldn't do without it now that I have it.
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Post by blackalex1952 » Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:21 pm

I have one of these green ones.
Stewmac say that they have modified their vise with bearings and a faster pitch screw
Does the ghreen one have the mods?
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Post by kiwigeo » Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:50 pm

blackalex1952 wrote:
Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:21 pm
I have one of these green ones.
Stewmac say that they have modified their vise with bearings and a faster pitch screw
Does the ghreen one have the mods?
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It doesn't have a bearing and the fancy faster pitch screw.....and the official Stewmac Communist paint job...but I'm happy with the green vise I've got.
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Post by routout » Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:02 pm

True if it works it's a good one ,the thing is a container is 5 k to ship so all the gear in it after Import duties has to be cheap as chips for the Importers I guess .I would like to make one out of Aluminium ect that would be a lot lighter .
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Post by matthew » Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:29 pm

Carbatec and the other importers already have containers full of ironwork coming regularly. all they need to do is put in a bunch of these with their next shipment!

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Post by routout » Sun Jun 25, 2017 5:02 pm

Yes they do :) they also want at the very least 200 percent profit :)
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Post by matthew » Sun Jun 25, 2017 6:09 pm

if an american retailer can import them from china or taiwan and sell for USD$130 and still make a 200% profit, then surely an aussie retailer can do the same :-/

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Post by kiwigeo » Sun Jun 25, 2017 6:17 pm

matthew wrote:
Sun Jun 25, 2017 6:09 pm
if an american retailer can import them from china or taiwan and sell for USD$130 and still make a 200% profit, then surely an aussie retailer can do the same :-/
Wouldn't work in South Australia...the State Government slaps taxes on any company making huge profits. :mrgreen:

Seriously though Carbatec or someone else would be onto a winner if they imported a container load of these vices at a decent price.
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Post by blackalex1952 » Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:52 pm

A buying group on this website perhaps? Maybe someone knows an importer who would include goods in a container shipment and is sympathetic to a luthier's budget. Then I might be dreaming as usual...-Ross
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Post by Bruce McC » Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:06 am

Hi Ross

A group buy was canvassed previously but never got off the ground.... see
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5889&p=73002&hilit= ... ses#p73002
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Post by kiwigeo » Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:26 am

Bruce McC wrote:
Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:06 am
Hi Ross

A group buy was canvassed previously but never got off the ground.... see
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5889&p=73002&hilit= ... ses#p73002
Don't know what happened there...it was all looking rosey and then the original poster stopped posting....would have been nice if he'd given us a reason or at least said goodbye.
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Post by kiwinoz62 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:38 pm

Hi Guys,

I also have the green pattern makers vise, but if I had of come across the parrot vise first, that would have been my preference to buy...why?...because it can be used in the vertical & horizontal positions & swivelled to any degree.
Of course, horses for courses.
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Post by Allen » Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:18 pm

The parrot vise is a much smaller unit. They do not cover the same scope of work holding......I have both.
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Post by kiwigeo » Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:27 pm

Allen wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:18 pm
The parrot vise is a much smaller unit. They do not cover the same scope of work holding......I have both.
Ditto. The pattern makers vice can hold a guitar by it's neck....not something I'd do with the parrot vice. The pattern makers rotating jaws also allow odd shaped objects to be held securely....again not something easily done with the parrot vice.
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Post by matthew » Thu Jun 29, 2017 9:26 am

the pattern makers vise can hold a double bass by the neck ... horizontal!!

not something I want to do every day but sometimes ...

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Post by kiwigeo » Thu Jun 29, 2017 9:35 am

matthew wrote:
Thu Jun 29, 2017 9:26 am
the pattern makers vise can hold a double bass by the neck ... horizontal!!

not something I want to do every day but sometimes ...
What's even better is the ability of the pattern makers vice to hold a human head...perfect for disciplining an errant child.
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Post by J.F. Custom » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:12 pm

Well...

Hey presto! 8)

https://www.carbatec.com.au/clamping-vi ... hiers-vise

In stock now. Merry Christmas. :wink:

*Disclaimer: (or is that spoiler alert?!) For those that don't know, I am working for Carbatec again and in a position to make this happen. It was actually in process during this discussion, but I did not want to say anything until it was a done deal and on the shelves.

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Post by Mark McLean » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:53 am

OK - Santa just received a PM from me about this.

Thanks for wielding your influence Jeremy!

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