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Post by rocket » Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:49 pm

Don't laugh!!!! i've started new build, even after i'd sworn off this despicable time consuming habit of making very expensive sawdust.
Well what can i say? you go to a guitar show[ arguably the biggest in the country] sell some stock and pick up an order all in the same week, you can't ignore that can ya hey?
So i've got the sides finished and just starting on the neck, this one is a copy [ with some small aesthetic variations of the cherry burst build from last year.
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so when i've got something to show you i'll post pics on here!!

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PS can any of the mods turn that pic up the right way? i don' know how it got like that!
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Re: New build

Post by 56nortondomy » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:38 pm

That's the way Rod, stick at it. I'll have a Walnut archtop finished this weekend, ( I hope ).
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Re: New build

Post by rocket » Wed Aug 16, 2017 1:26 am

56nortondomy wrote:
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That's the way Rod, stick at it. I'll have a Walnut archtop finished this weekend, ( I hope ).
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Thanks Wayne, looking forward to seeing that!

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Re: New build

Post by Bruce McC » Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:48 am

What about the new kitchen the missus has been waiting for? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: New build

Post by rocket » Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:51 pm

Thanks for reminding me Bruce, I don't think this build is going to stuff my plans up too much, I still have the small landscaping job in the back to finish and then it's the kitchen, I reckon I can reserve the weekends for the domestic stuff and just loofer before and after work.
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Re: New build

Post by rocket » Sat Aug 26, 2017 12:58 pm

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Re: New build

Post by joel » Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:20 pm

It's a beautiful guitar. One day I'll make an archrival style guitar. But first a silly question. Why are the tops carved? Why not steam/heat pressed or steam shaped a bit like sides are?
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Re: New build

Post by joel » Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:25 pm

Archtop. Not archrival. Phone autocorrect is the bane of my existence.
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Re: New build

Post by rocket » Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:22 pm

David,a typical arched plate be it front or back varies in thickness from 5-6mm down to 3mm at the thinnest point it would be impossible to bend the timber in every direction around the 360 degrees required without it cracking or splitting just about everywhere. a bit of homework for you, take a piece of aluminium foil and cut a circle about 30mm in diameter and place it over a milk bottle and push it down into the neck of the bottle with your thumb, now take it out and have a look at the shape of the foil, nice and smooth on the crest and bloody wrinkly around the edge, the foil didn't crack but it still looks crap around the edges, and the foil is much more forgiving than timber.
So in a nut shell!! it's easier to carve arch tops to shape than press them into shape,,,,,,,,
i hope this answers your question..

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Re: New build

Post by kiwigeo » Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:48 am

From my understanding there were alot of reasons pressed laminated archtops appeared - reduced production costs, ability to create a more uniform product, stiffer tops and reduced tendancy for feedback are a few reasons I've seen fielded. As for differences in tonal quality there are a some great sounding laminated top archtops but I think it would be hard to match the sound of a hand made solid archtop.
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Re: New build

Post by rocket » Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:00 am

rocket wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:22 pm
David,a typical arched plate be it front or back varies in thickness from 5-6mm down to 3mm at the thinnest point it would be impossible to bend the timber in every direction around the 360 degrees required without it cracking or splitting just about everywhere. a bit of homework for you, take a piece of aluminium foil and cut a circle about 30mm in diameter and place it over a milk bottle and push it down into the neck of the bottle with your thumb, now take it out and have a look at the shape of the foil, nice and smooth on the crest and bloody wrinkly around the edge, the foil didn't crack but it still looks crap around the edges, and the foil is much more forgiving than timber.
So in a nut shell!! it's easier to carve arch tops to shape than press them into shape,,,,,,,,
i hope this answers your question..

Cheers

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I'm referring here only to Davids question regarding the bending of a solid top, laminated tops are totally different animal which I might add I have been known to use in the past, in fact the two guitars referred to in this topic are laminated tops and backs.

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Re: New build

Post by simso » Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:26 am

Very nice, can we see a photo of the body mold you are using

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Re: New build

Post by rocket » Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:03 pm

Body mould Steve.

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Re: New build

Post by simso » Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:14 pm

That looks really good, did you hand make that one.

The laminated sides, are you buying them laminated and bending or laminating them into the mold

One of the local store owners has asked me to teach them how to build a 175, so ironically I happen to need to make a mold. Having seen the body profile you had, it looked tidy and neat.

I am currently drawing the body up in cad, to cnc make a body mold for him, personally I am going to make a Benedetto Archtop at the same time whilst he is doing his 175.

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Re: New build

Post by kiwigeo » Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:48 pm

ES175.....that's jazz guitar porn!!
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Re: New build

Post by rocket » Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:55 pm

simso wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:14 pm
That looks really good, did you hand make that one.

The laminated sides, are you buying them laminated and bending or laminating them into the mold

One of the local store owners has asked me to teach them how to build a 175, so ironically I happen to need to make a mold. Having seen the body profile you had, it looked tidy and neat.

I am currently drawing the body up in cad, to cnc make a body mold for him, personally I am going to make a Benedetto Archtop at the same time whilst he is doing his 175.

Steve
Steve ,, no cmc's in my shop, i do everything with the old elbow grease, make a template, transfer to mdf cut it out on the bandsaw, refine the bumps with files etc.
I bend my sides and laminate them inside the mould, all my instruments are done that way.


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Re: New build

Post by rocket » Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:08 pm

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Re: New build

Post by rocket » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:44 am

A bit of progress.

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