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New GST rules

Post by peter.coombe » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:40 pm

Anyone have any idea how the new GST rules for imports under $1000 is going to work. As I understand it, the bigger companies such as Ebay will be charging customers and paying it, but what about the smaller companies such as LMI and Stew Mac? There are millions of small companies all over the world, the Australian government cannot possibly get all of them to register to pay GST. Is this going to mean long delays and an enormous logjam at the border as Aussie customs collect the money? I got an email from the ATO saying we need to pay GST for all imports if not registered for GST, but zero information on how the hell we pay it. I smell a coming shemozzle.
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Re: New GST rules

Post by kiwigeo » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:57 pm

Great news for Tax Accountants!!
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Re: New GST rules

Post by simso » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:52 pm

Wifes a book keeper, apparently the forwarding companies like Dhl, Fedex are going to be required to collect money on behalf of the government before releasing the goods, we will see what happens hey.

What an absolute IMO cluster situation, government being really really greedy, nothing IMo about being fair across business's

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Re: New GST rules

Post by peter.coombe » Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:03 am

Ok, but that is likely to mean delays. How do the forwarding companies contact us? There is usually not an email address on the package, and not necessarily a phone number either so that leaves snail mail. The forwarding companies, and that must include Australia Post had better have big warehouses! What about packages that have already paid GST, how will they know it has already been paid?

I am not so sure the government is being greedy. They were under pressure from Gerry Hardy and his mates. The problem is with small packages the cost of collecting the GST outweighs the revenue gained. What they have done is to dump this cost onto ebay etc and the forwarding companies. These companies have to recover their costs somehow so there will probably be a fee in addition to the GST, and don't be surprised if the fee is more than the GST and maybe even more than what the package is worth. In the end we pay through the nose. Protectionism by stealth.
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Re: New GST rules

Post by simso » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:36 pm

Yes that is where no one really knows whats going to happen, the forwarding companies are going to be collecting on behalf of the government, business's overseas that deal in more than 75000 in australian sales have to become registered for GST now in Australia and collect GST for the government.

Digital markets selling to australian customers like netflix/prime and so forth have to mandatory collect gst to make digital sales to australians, its really mind blowing, yet the government has not put a single thing in place to make it happen, just tried to push the responsibilty onto the businesses trading with us.

You can see why Amazon went, nope get stuffed, all aussies are banned from buying from overseas stores.

Its a real cluster I reckon

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Re: New GST rules

Post by peter.coombe » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:08 pm

Is a good time to stock up before this comes into effect.
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Re: New GST rules

Post by Blackstar1099 » Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:57 pm

I've got $500 worth of timber coming from Canada via surface mail soon. I'm wondering if it arrives after 1st July whether I'll have to pay. Will customs be smart enough to let it go by looking at the ship date on the package.

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Re: New GST rules

Post by kiwigeo » Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:01 pm

That's an interesting one.....let us know what happens.
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I've got $500 worth of timber coming from Canada via surface mail soon. I'm wondering if it arrives after 1st July whether I'll have to pay. Will customs be smart enough to let it go by looking at the ship date on the package.
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Re: New GST rules

Post by WJ Guitars » Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:07 am

Has any one made a purchase since July overseas eg Stewmac, LMI or though Ebay for an order say less than $1000 yet? If so were there any issues / delays in receiving the goods? How does it work when paying the GST and Couriers?

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Re: New GST rules

Post by simso » Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:29 am

Yep, gst was added on the checkout process on Ebay and Stewmac, have not placed an order with LMII this month yet

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Re: New GST rules

Post by Steve.Toscano » Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:19 pm

I did a $200 order with LMI on July 5th, arrived last week, I wasnt charged GST.

Have done some ebay orders and noticed ebay is charging the GST at the checkout like Simso mentioned.

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Re: New GST rules

Post by blackalex1952 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:47 pm

Stewmac just sent me this email, screenshot attached. Hats off to them for respecting Aussie customers the way they do, and circumnavigating our new GST concept! I have also had very good experience with these guys when it comes to returns or faulty products. Cheers, Ross
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Re: New GST rules

Post by kiwigeo » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:26 pm

ROFL...that's sticking it up poor old Gerry Harvey :mrgreen:
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Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:47 pm
Stewmac just sent me this email, screenshot attached. Hats off to them for respecting Aussie customers the way they do, and circumnavigating our new GST concept! I have also had very good experience with these guys when it comes to returns or faulty products. Cheers, Ross
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